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As I mentioned in the "Your Status" thread my desktop is in the shop so I am using my laptop right now. I am not sure if my laptop's graphics capability is below your "Minimum Specifications" or not. Still, I installed the Master Candidate on my laptop anyway just to see how it did on such a system.
Now on the issue I ecountered. I checked this on multiple graphics settings from low to very high with the same result. When I am looking at ships in the “Tech Database” in the tech room whenever I select the Yorktown-class the game crashes back to desktop with a windows "Wing Commaner Saga has stopped working." message box.
As this is with a fresh install and new game on the laptop and the “Ctrl-Shift-S” command is not active in the MC1 I am unable to check all of the game’s ships for this issue at this time. Still of the ships that are in the tech room as of the Brimstone missions no other tech database entry has caused this crash, only the Yorktown-class Carrier.
I am putting this unnder graphics due the the fact that the Tech Database displays ship models. It is possible that this could be an interface issue but I am betting on graphics.
Can anybody reproduce this??
@Light: I attached the debug build. That one also still supports Ctrl+Shift+S Please try to reproduce and send me the fs_open.log from your C:\Users\[Whatever]\Documents\Volition\Wing Commander Saga\data folder
@Light: Also try deleting the Yorktown related contents of your cache folder
I checked all of the entries in the “Tech Database” revealed by the "Ctrl-Shift-S" command. Only two of them gave me any trouble, the aforementioned "Yorktown" and the Kilrathi "Command Station". The Command Station I was able to resolve by deleting the "kb_starbase.ibx" and "kb_starbase.tsb" files from the cash. No issue now with the Kilrathi "Command Station".
The Yorktown however has not responded to the same action. Despite being deleted from the cache folder. In trying it three times I noticed that the "tcs_yorktown.ibx" files in my Recycle Bin all have different file sizes, 912KB, 1.77MB, and 1.80MB.
I can't seem to get the fs_open.log file to attach to the post. I might have to try and PM it to you instead.
Edit: I can't find how to attach a file in the PM system ether. I have cut and pasted the data in the file into the code box below instead.
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DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
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FreeSpace version: 1.0.1.7687
Passed cmdline options:
-fov 0.87266
Building file index...
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_cbanims.vp' with a checksum of 0x2409b26f
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_core.vp' with a checksum of 0x9fcf55ac
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_effects.vp' with a checksum of 0xe6829897
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_interface.vp' with a checksum of 0x04147f07
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_maps.vp' with a checksum of 0xa6d65d81
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_models.vp' with a checksum of 0xd3fec0d4
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_movies.vp' with a checksum of 0x334041cd
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_movies_prologue.vp' with a checksum of 0x9b94783c
Found root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_sounds.vp' with a checksum of 0x7e2c4929
Searching root 'C:\Users\Karl Akkerman laptop\Documents\Volition\Wing Commander Saga\' ... 352 files
Searching root 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\' ... 0 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_cbanims.vp' ... 11105 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_core.vp' ... 114 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_effects.vp' ... 2052 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_interface.vp' ... 3330 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_maps.vp' ... 2007 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_models.vp' ... 169 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_movies.vp' ... 60 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_movies_prologue.vp' ... 7 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Wing Commander Saga\hermes_sounds.vp' ... 5984 files
Found 11 roots and 25180 files.
AutoLang: Language auto-detection successful...
Setting language to English
Initializing OpenAL...
Using 'Generic Software on Speakers / Headphones (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)' as OpenAL sound device...
OpenAL Vendor : Creative Labs Inc.
OpenAL Renderer : Software
OpenAL Version : 1.1
... OpenAL successfully initialized!
Failed to init speech
Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 1360x768 with 32-bit color...
Initializing WGL...
Requested WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
Actual WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
OpenGL Vendor : Intel
OpenGL Renderer : Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family
OpenGL Version : 2.1.0 - Build 8.15.10.2202
Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord".
Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression".
Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc".
Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine".
Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array".
Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements".
Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two".
Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object".
Using extension "GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object".
Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap".
Using extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle".
Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra".
Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map".
Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias".
Using extension "GL_ARB_point_sprite".
Using extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100".
Using extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects".
Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader".
Using extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader".
Unable to find extension "GL_ATI_shader_texture_lod".
Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT".
Max texture units: 8 (8)
Max elements vertices: 1024
Max elements indices: 1024
Max texture size: 4096x4096
Can use compressed textures: YES
Texture compression available: YES
Using trilinear texture filter.
... OpenGL init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 760 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 52 bytes
ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence...
SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization...
LUA: Opening LUA state...
LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries...
LUA: Beginning ADE initialization
ADE: Initializing enumeration constants...
ADE: Assigning Lua session...
SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence....
SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete.
SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked
SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run
SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run
Using high memory settings...
Wokka! Error opening file (interface.tbl)!
WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'! Error code = 5.
ANI 2_radar1 with size 209x170 (33.6% wasted)
JOYSTICK: Joystick found and read successfully.
JOYSTICK: joyGetPosEx returned: JOYERR_NOERROR
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
Wokka! Error opening file (armor.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'! Error code = 5.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp20.eff) with 100 frames at 30 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (ExpMissileHit1.eff) with 150 frames at 30 fps.
ANI Lamprey_Impact with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted)
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp07.eff) with 47 frames at 20 fps.
TBM => Starting parse of 'bomber-obt.tbm' ...
loading animated cursor "cursor"
ANI cursor with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Ships.tbl is : INVALID!!!!
Weapons.tbl is : INVALID!!!!
cfile_init() took 2155
Got event GS_EVENT_GAME_INIT (49) in state NOT A VALID STATE (0)
Bitmap 2_ChoosePilot-m.pcx allocated 786432 bytes
Bitmap 2_ChoosePilot.dds allocated 2359296 bytes
Bitmap 2_CPB_060002.dds allocated 10508 bytes
ANI cursor.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Bitmap cursor.ani allocated 1152 bytes
Bitmap 2_CPB_030001.dds allocated 7644 bytes
Bitmap 2_CPB_040001.dds allocated 7644 bytes
Bitmap 2_CPB_050001.dds allocated 17864 bytes
Got event GS_EVENT_MAIN_MENU (0) in state GS_STATE_INITIAL_PLAYER_SELECT (37)
Someone passed an extension to bm_load for file 'Bloodhounds.pcx'
Bitmap Bloodhounds.pcx allocated 32768 bytes
Wokka! Error opening file (FreeSpace2.fc2)!
Error parsing 'FreeSpace2.fc2'
Error code = 5.
Bitmap 2_mainhall-M.pcx allocated 786432 bytes
Bitmap 2_mainhall.dds allocated 2359296 bytes
Bitmap 2_mainhall_misc_1[0] allocated 121176 bytes
Bitmap 2_mainhall_misc_2[0] allocated 58776 bytes
Bitmap 2_mainhall_misc_3[0] allocated 20286 bytes
Bitmap 2_mainhall_misc_4[0] allocated 129876 bytes
Bitmap 2_mainhall_door_3[0] allocated 51888 bytes
Bitmap 2_mainhall_door_1[0] allocated 24576 bytes
Bitmap 2_mainhall_door_2[0] allocated 68256 bytes
ANI cursor.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Bitmap cursor.ani allocated 1152 bytes
Got event GS_EVENT_TECH_MENU (11) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1)
Bitmap 2_TechShipData-M.pcx allocated 786432 bytes
Techroom successfully initialized, now changing tab...
Loading model 'tcf_arrow.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'tcf_arrow.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xadef20a5, IBX checksum: 0x661587be -- "tcf_arrow.pof"
Frame 0 too long!!: frametime = 0.275 (0.275)
Bitmap 2_TechShipData.dds allocated 2359296 bytes
Bitmap tcf_arrow.dds allocated 2796216 bytes
Bitmap tcf_arrow-glow.dds allocated 2796216 bytes
Bitmap 2_TDB_000002.dds allocated 3952 bytes
Bitmap 2_TDB_040002.dds allocated 10200 bytes
Bitmap 2_TDB_010001.dds allocated 3952 bytes
Bitmap 2_TDB_000001.dds allocated 3952 bytes
Bitmap 2_TDB_020001.dds allocated 3952 bytes
Bitmap 2_TDB_030001.dds allocated 3952 bytes
TECH ROOM: Dumping excess ship textures...
Loading model 'tcs_yorktown.pof'
IBX: Starting a new IBX for 'tcs_yorktown.pof'.
Potential problem found: Unrecognized subsystem type 'intake02', believed to be in ship tcs_yorktown.pof
Potential problem found: Unrecognized subsystem type 'intake01', believed to be in ship tcs_yorktown.pof
Potential problem found: Unrecognized subsystem type 'intake03', believed to be in ship tcs_yorktown.pof
Potential problem found: Unrecognized subsystem type 'intake04', believed to be in ship tcs_yorktown.pof
Potential problem found: Unrecognized subsystem type 'intake05', believed to be in ship tcs_yorktown.pof
Potential problem found: Unrecognized subsystem type 'intake06', believed to be in ship tcs_yorktown.pof
I do not see anything out of the ordinary in the debug log. Please try the previous iteration of Yorktown, available here:
media.wcsaga.net/tolwyn/tcs_yorktown.zip
Tolwyn wrote:I do not see anything out of the ordinary in the debug log. Please try the previous iteration of Yorktown, available here:media.wcsaga.net/tolwyn/tcs_yorktown.zip
Placed the tcs_yorktown.pof file in the data\models folder and cleared cache of all yorktown files, still lockes up and then crashes.
He's right. I can confirm the issue.
I've also attached my log in case you need more data.
I'll upload different yorktown revisions later
By the way, guys. Do you have skype and are online during the next few hours? I have an idea what could be causing this but I need your feedback as I am not able to reproduce this issue.
Here you go. This should help us establish whenever or not the issue is caused by latest model file updates.
media.wcsaga.net/tolwyn/tcs_yorktown.zip
1. Rename one of the revisions to tcs_yorktown.pof (e.g. remove revision sufix) 2. place the pof file in data\models 3. Delete old cache files. 4. Run the game.
EDIT: also please try updated POF file media.wcsaga.net/tolwyn/tcs_yorktown.pof
EDIT2: Also, if neither Yorktown works, uninstall MC, delete anything that is left in the folder, delete the my documents/Volition.../cache folder.
Tolwyn wrote: 1. Rename one of the revisions to tcs_yorktown.pof (e.g. remove revision sufix) 2. place the pof file in data\models 3. Delete old cache files. 4. Run the game.
I followed the procedure outlined above with all four POF files. All produced the same result, the game locked up and then windows shutdown the program.
Problem is - there is absolutely zero indication in the data files, which could cause this problem. I can't recreate this issue.
Have another go with this one
media.wcsaga.net/tolwyn/tcs_yorktown.pof
Ok people this is serious. I need testers for this on standby as much as possible. This is a fucking release stopper so we need to find this NOW!
@Stinger, Light: do any of you have ANY experience with c++ and/or Visual studio?
KeldorKatarn, No, sorry, I do not have any experience c++ or Visual studio. I have attached my latest "fs2_open" log file. Maybe something will contrast with the the earlier one.
Also, here is the most up to date POF file combined with my cache files. Place the pof file in data\models and the cache files in my documents\volition\...\cache
media.wcsaga.net/tolwyn/tcs_yorktown.7z
KeldorKatarn wrote:@Stinger, Light: do any of you have ANY experience with c++ and/or Visual studio?My experience ends with "Hello world" unfortunately... sorry. How do I use the .pof file - do I need to extract the VP container first?
1. Create models folder in WCS\data and copy the pof file there. It will overwrite the one in the vp archive 2. Copy ibx and tsb file into the cache folder located in your my documents folder.
Guys... did anybody try to play the prologue missions in MC1? The game crashes when loading the Yorktown model - The missions won't start!!! Tested that with the debug build and the loading screen freezes and the game crashes with yorktown.pof.
Have you tried using the updated model?
And this happened thus far only on light's and your pc.
EDIT: do you have skype or icq?
Okay, I've used the new pof file. It is WORKING now. Tech database and missions are working fine.
My icq # is 271001823