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4 years 3 months ago #8923 by Tolwyn
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We will release the source code in the next couple of days.

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4 years 2 months ago #8936 by X3N0-Life-Form
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Well, since it's been over a week, I'm sharing this anyway: code archive . It's based off rev 9677, but it might include a couple of non-WCS related changes as well.

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4 years 2 months ago #8952 by karajorma
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Well it's missing a few things but it's better than nothing. If the code ever is released send me a PM on HLP. I'd be happy to collaborate with you to get WCS running on modern FS2_Open builds.

There are at least a couple of SEXPs in there I'll reverse engineer even if the code never does get released.

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4 years 2 months ago #8955 by X3N0-Life-Form
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[EDIT] --> What KK said before deleting his post, for the record, was that we were not allowed to run WCS asset using the source code. And that we should expect major trouble if we did so. (I should have hit "quote" ><)
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What do you mean? Which source code, the WCS fork or SCP trunk?
And what kind of troubles, legal ones?

[ Warning: stream of thought post ]
Alright, here is what we know:
-The game was released more than a year ago, as a Windows-only application, with Linux & Mac versions comming out supposedly soon afterwards.
-IIRC, the source code release was expected after the mac & linux releases
-At one point, KeldorKatarn mentionned that someone had noticed WCS (EA maybe), and that we should expect a statement regarding WCS's status soon after that. Instead, the messages were deleted before anyone could reply, which I assume meant that potential legal trouble was avoided.
-IIRC, you mentionned that the reasons for the delay for the mac release were technical in nature, and that someone else was working on that.
-A few weeks ago, as we started talking about reverse engineering some of WCS's stuff, Tolwyn poped in to say that the source code would be released in the following couple of days.
-Lastly, KeldorKatarn is here, telling us clearly that we are not allowed to run WCS asserts with the source code.


Now, since nowadays sharing a code base is one of the easiest things in the world, I only saw two reasons for not releasing the source code after specifically telling people it would get released:
-Either part of the devs are unwilling to release the source code, for personal resons.
-Or the devs literally, legally can't release the source code as is, which I assumed was possibly because it used closed source licensed librairies or something, and that the delay was caused by someone looking for alternative open source solutions.

From what KeldorKatarn told us today, I'm guessing #2 is closer to the truth.

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4 years 2 months ago #8959 by KeldorKatarn
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We will release the source. As for anything else, I will not comment on that.

as for the MacOS port.. let me just say one of the major problems is that the programmer who was working on the port is no longer available because of a serious illness.

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4 years 1 month ago #9012 by karajorma
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Any idea when it will be released? I hate to get demanding about this but it's been over a year and unlike most of the people asking, I DID contribute to the project's development. There is a lot of code I added being used in Wing Commander Saga. And a few of those things were added specifically upon request by the WCS team.

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask that someone spend the 5 minutes needed to zip up the code folder in order to pay me back for the hours I spent coding for this project. Or at the very least give me a proper explanation for why they can't.

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3 years 11 months ago #9060 by KeldorKatarn
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It takes a bit longer than 5 minutes. Also I don't have a good place to load it up to right now and Tolwyn is on vaction. We'll get to it.

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3 years 11 months ago #9061 by karajorma
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I agree that a proper release does take longer, but just a zip of the code folder would be pretty helpful, especially for things like your new SEXPs.

Hell, just a pastebin of sexp.cpp and sexp.h would save X3N0-Life-Form or me hours of work.

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3 years 10 months ago #9087 by KeldorKatarn
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I'll try to get this done in the next few days.

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3 years 10 months ago #9092 by KeldorKatarn
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